Can the church be saved

The article in New York Times “Can liberal Christianity be saved” on 14 July 12 by Ross Dothat was provocative for many don’t believe in atonement or salvation now faced with the need for redemption themselves. Perhaps the church as a whole was declining and those trying to save the church from her own evil ways such as causing harm against the gay community goes down first.

Some are so dogmatic about being “Progressive” and “Post Modern” yet what is left without atonement and justification from sin or beyond the miracles and supernatural aspects of Christianity. Continue reading

God’s criminals

“In this regard, we urge our government to maintain: a) current legislation concerning homosexuality; ” National Council of Churches Singapore

“It is plain, then, that these arguments against decriminalizing homosexual acts wither down to little more than an intuitive disgust for homosexual activity. Should our law-making be governed by this intuitive disgust? I hope not” Decriminalising Homosexual Acts, Singapore Law Review

“Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years.” Section 377A (“Outrages on decency”)

“409. Whoever, being in any manner entrusted with property, or with any dominion over property, in his capacity of a public servant, or in the way of his business as a banker, merchant, factor, broker, attorney or agent, commits criminal breach of trust in respect of that property, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 20 years, and shall also be liable to fine. ” Criminal Breach of Trust as an Agent under section 409 read with section 109 of the Penal Code, Chapter 224.

“Given that section 377A PC criminalises homosexuality whether done private or publicly, we are of the view that a similar prohibition ought to be enacted in respect of lesbianism, considering that lesbianism (like homosexuality) is also abhorrent and deviant, whether consensual or not.'” National Council of Churches Singapore

Mat 7:1 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

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There can be miracles for gay equality in Malaysia


Job 9:10 He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted.

The Gay marriage banquet at Berjaya Times Square in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia on 04 Aug 12 went ahead without any fanfare. So too would legalization of homosexuality and gay marriage will be one day in South East Asia.

The Malaysian State Minister, Datuk Seri Jamir Khir asked for Malaysians to protest against same sex marriages and said that even Christians in Malaysia prohibit such practices. But there were no police presence at the wedding banquet or any protest by the well wishes.

With the echoes of gay marriage reaching the shores with news that Vietnam (of all places due to their poor human rights record) may soon be legalizing gay marriages, the legalization of homosexuality is all but certain. The next battle is on gay marriage which may already be lost if US, Europe and South America were a guide.

The Christian Post SG article “Breakdown in Morality due to Gender Lostness: Professor “ on 08 Aug 12 quoted from a Professor Dale Kuehne who defined traditional morality as a “heterosexual monogamous marriage” which he claims has been the Western consensus for the last 2,500 years unchallenged even by the Greek and Romans and went on to blame gays for the apparent breakdown of sexual morality.

This is an unsupported argument for the history of traditional sexual morality has been profoundly immoral. Paul was so angst by the thousands of prostitutes in the port city of Corinth and which was prevailing in Jerusalem and Rome where heterosexual adultery was rampant that he said it was better not to marry.

Jesus Himself was particularly critical of the hypocrisy of the religious Pharisees who were divorcing their wives at will whilst claiming a moral stand. Heterosexuality was the issue and not homosexuality.

The hypocrisy by people of faith will be one day outed in the secular courts. How can the unrighteous judge the righteous? For even the unrighteous has become more holy.

We are reminded the royal protector of faith of the Church of England, Henry the VIII didn’t lose his gender identity when he divorced each of his wives and had them killed for failing to bear him an heir. Going back further, King Solomon had 300 wives which corrupted his religious faith in God. Quoting traditional morality is delusional.

Biblically and historically, the concept of marriage is ownership of women by the men with one man having many wives and concubines if he could afford it and was sufficiently virile and certainly not the monogamous practice. The setting was a patriarchal male dominated faith setting.

Contrary to the Rev Professor’s assertions, the Greeks and the Romans have had no problem with same sex relationships as seen in their writings only modern day Christians who got it confused with religious practices of the ancients where sex was used to unite one with the spiritual deity.

Blaming gays for causing Gender “lostness” is delusional when our sexual morality being dominated by straight alpha male bulls and equally curvaceous females. They know their gender roles tool well with the prevailing adultery, and large scale abortions. The news stand filled with pictures of half-naked women certainly has no gender confusion.

It is not “gender lostness” that the church will be facing, but a lost of morality, an unseen lost of righteousness. Unlike many other faiths, we claim we have the truth and the only way to God. Our standing will be compromised for if we could have been so wrong on homosexuality for which we have made into a religious dogma, the Gospel message is shamed.

Pastor Derek Hong, the famous anti-gay church of Our Saviour in Singapore was not wrong when he said that “Homosexuality will destroy Christianity”, for the church is liable for judgement. When gay marriage comes, and nothing happens, it would destroy the churches’ soul and spiritual standing.

We have denied gays the basic rights of existence and relationships which we have taken for granted. We have robbed them and blamed gays for our own sexual immorality. It is not only a false witness, but stealing and killing of their lives and dignity.

Professor Kuehne in Christian Post sees the beauty of democracy has a safe space to raise his views on homosexuality as a subject of debate and varying opinions in a democracy, but we are talking about the lives of people. We cared about our own dogmatic religious faith construction. On the contrary, it is in the public forums, that the church will receive due judgement.

The people of faith may see history, tradition, and orthodoxy as their defence. But it is the point of judgement. For 2,500 years, gays have been denied justice and freedom by the church whilst the church engaged in the vilest of sexual immorality and child abuse from the Catholic to the Protestant churches. We are judged by the weight of history. The law will not pass away for history seals our fate.

As the gay wedding banquet at Berjaya Times Square, Malaysia, came to an end, it only highlighted what we have lost and the relationships and the living of lives stolen from us. It was not just the living who attended the banquet, but listen closely and you would hear the echoes of gays gone past. They are also looking for closure, for justice.

There is now no more fear in Christ Jesus. Let us start living and be not ashamed in who we are. The miracle has happened.

A wedding banquet in Malaysia


Luke 14:15 When one of those at the table with him heard this, he said to Jesus, “Blessed is the one who will eat at the feast in the kingdom of God.”

Luke 14:23 “Then the master told his servant, ‘Go out to the roads and country lanes and compel them to come in, so that my house will be full.

On Sat 04 Aug 12, the Rev O Young of MCC New York made history again in Malaysia by having one of the first gay marriage wedding banquet at the Berjaya Times Square in Bukit Bintang shopping triangle. O Young had come to fame by having the first church service that is affirming of gay people in the opening of MCC Kuala Lumpur in Aug 2007.

I had earlier went to the MCC church in KL to get the details of the banquet venue and happened to drop by a conference featuring O Young.

As I was leaving the conference via the lift at Viva Home in Miharja Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, I asked one of the attendees of a church conference which church he was from? He replied “I just got kicked out from xxxx Assembly of God”. He was young man, and his voice and looks of innocence grieves my heart. Continue reading

An Everlasting Legacy


Is 56: 4 For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, 5 Even to them I will give in My house And within My walls a place and a name Better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name That shall not be cut off.

In the midst of the controversy surrounding the song “The Greatest Place – City Harvest Church”, looking past the worship of Kong Hee by the youths, the song is ultimately about the legacy of Pastor Kong in the lives of the youths for which he was their idol.It was not just any legacy but the CHC youths were his legacy, for Kong Hee’s words had made an impact to their hearts, gave them them love and freedom.

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